Hello and welcome to Episode 332 of The People Powered Business Podcast.
Have you thrown money at wellbeing perks in your business, morning teas, a gym membership, maybe even a "wellness day," and still feel like your team is running on empty? You're not doing it wrong. You've just been sold the wrong fix, and you're definitely not alone.
I keep hearing this from business owners I work with. They genuinely care about their people, they've ticked the boxes they were told to tick, and they're still watching staff disengage, burn out or walk out the door anyway.
It's estimated Australian businesses spend around $64 million a year on wellbeing initiatives, and most of it goes towards treating symptoms rather than causes. So for this episode I sat down with workplace wellbeing strategist, speaker and author Amy Green. Amy's a former teacher and school leader who's spent the last decade working with schools, corporates and individual leaders, helping them properly rethink what keeps people well at work, rather than just papering over the cracks.
We get into why burnout is so much more than being tired on a Friday afternoon, and why the perks-based approach to wellbeing (think ping pong tables and free coffee) misses what people actually need to thrive. Amy explains the difference between wellbeing that feels good for five minutes and the kind that sustains people long term, and why trust, autonomy and accountability all need to work together if you want a team that performs well and stays well, not one you're checking up on at 5.15pm on a Friday.
She also shares a great example of how trust is actually built (hint: it's not by handing it over all at once, and it's not by micromanaging either), and why so many leaders confuse a lack of clarity for a lack of trust. We talk about the generational change happening in how people think about work and success, including a story about her eleven-year-old nephew's dream job that will make you think differently about what the next generation wants from work.
We finish with a look at Amy's brand new book, The Wellness Paradox, which explores six paradoxes she sees playing out again and again in workplaces just like yours, including the paradox of success and why so many high achievers doing "all the right things" end up more exhausted, not less.
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To connect with Amy:
Amy’s website: https://amygreen.com.au
LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/amygreen/
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What this episode covers
This episode unpacks why so many workplace wellbeing initiatives fail to reduce burnout, even when businesses are genuinely investing in them. Workplace wellbeing strategist Amy Green explains the real difference between quick-fix wellbeing perks and the conditions that actually sustain a team long term, and why trust, autonomy and accountability need to work together rather than in isolation. It's suited to business owners and leaders who want their wellbeing efforts to actually work, not just tick a box.
Key insight from this episode
Most workplace wellbeing initiatives fail because they treat the symptom rather than the cause. Perks like massages, morning teas and gym memberships address short-term, feel-good wellbeing, but they do nothing to fix the underlying conditions, unclear expectations, low trust, lack of autonomy, that are actually driving burnout and disengagement.
What you'll take away

Practical advice for small business owners who want to cut through the chaos, ditch the overwhelm and actually enjoy leading their team, straight to your inbox every Wednesday.